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		By: sarda		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/24959/permanent-revolution/#comment-18587</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 12:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Middle Class

It is about time that we take notice of these double-faced people. Like right now, they are already at the process of betraying the masses&#039; hard-earned revolution. The vacillating character of these class is what makes it difficult to identify them but what makes them stand-out is that they do not want fall in the category of the working-class, they see the working-class as a status lower than them, hence, they spread the thought that escaping the working-class category is just something to be proud of, disgusting!

Let us do away with these middle class by lambasting their words everywhere and every time they speak until it becomes shameful and they are no longer proud of being one.

-----sarda-----]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Middle Class</p>
<p>It is about time that we take notice of these double-faced people. Like right now, they are already at the process of betraying the masses&#8217; hard-earned revolution. The vacillating character of these class is what makes it difficult to identify them but what makes them stand-out is that they do not want fall in the category of the working-class, they see the working-class as a status lower than them, hence, they spread the thought that escaping the working-class category is just something to be proud of, disgusting!</p>
<p>Let us do away with these middle class by lambasting their words everywhere and every time they speak until it becomes shameful and they are no longer proud of being one.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;sarda&#8212;&#8211;</p>
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		By: Muhammad		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/24959/permanent-revolution/#comment-17962</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Muhammad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Hossam,

I am writing to you today because I have been a follower of yours on Twitter and found you to be a most informative and insightful voice during one of the key events of our lifetime: Egypt’s Revolution of January 25th. As someone who is so closely involved in the current transition, I wanted to share
with you a project that we are set to launch over the coming couple of days: Talabatna.com.

Talabatna.com is a crowdsourcing tool we have developed, which bears the goal of allowing every Egyptian with internet access to remain engaged in the political and social reform process from their home computers. The site has no profit, political or social motives or agendas. It is simply a tool for people to share ideas and allow others to “agree” or “disagree”: thereby allowing the best ideas (based on the votes of the people) to gain the most prominence. In other words, it is a democratic tool that can be used to facilitate the dialogue process.

We would be delighted if you would be interested in having a look at the site before we make it public, sharing any feedback you may have with us, and/or submitting any ideas you find to be of interest or value. Our site allows anyone with a Facebook account to vote, provided they are located in Egypt.

Thanks for your consideration,

Muhammad]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Hossam,</p>
<p>I am writing to you today because I have been a follower of yours on Twitter and found you to be a most informative and insightful voice during one of the key events of our lifetime: Egypt’s Revolution of January 25th. As someone who is so closely involved in the current transition, I wanted to share<br />
with you a project that we are set to launch over the coming couple of days: Talabatna.com.</p>
<p>Talabatna.com is a crowdsourcing tool we have developed, which bears the goal of allowing every Egyptian with internet access to remain engaged in the political and social reform process from their home computers. The site has no profit, political or social motives or agendas. It is simply a tool for people to share ideas and allow others to “agree” or “disagree”: thereby allowing the best ideas (based on the votes of the people) to gain the most prominence. In other words, it is a democratic tool that can be used to facilitate the dialogue process.</p>
<p>We would be delighted if you would be interested in having a look at the site before we make it public, sharing any feedback you may have with us, and/or submitting any ideas you find to be of interest or value. Our site allows anyone with a Facebook account to vote, provided they are located in Egypt.</p>
<p>Thanks for your consideration,</p>
<p>Muhammad</p>
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		By: RedTrackWorker		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/24959/permanent-revolution/#comment-15829</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 23:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The strategy of permanent revolution must, I think, mean the workers taking the lead and that the goal must be a revolutionary workers&#039; state.  Yet the Revolutionary Socialists statement of Feb. 1 called on the workers to join the &quot;people,&quot; not for the workers as a class to lead the struggle. Its call &quot;All power to the people!&quot; and your statement &quot;empower the people of this country with direct democracy from below&quot; leave ambiguous whether a popular front or populist regime could be meet the workers&#039; interests or whether it is necessary to overthrow the capitalist state and build a workers&#039; state. See this open letter in response to the RS statement for more discussion: .  In solidarity with all those in struggle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The strategy of permanent revolution must, I think, mean the workers taking the lead and that the goal must be a revolutionary workers&#8217; state.  Yet the Revolutionary Socialists statement of Feb. 1 called on the workers to join the &#8220;people,&#8221; not for the workers as a class to lead the struggle. Its call &#8220;All power to the people!&#8221; and your statement &#8220;empower the people of this country with direct democracy from below&#8221; leave ambiguous whether a popular front or populist regime could be meet the workers&#8217; interests or whether it is necessary to overthrow the capitalist state and build a workers&#8217; state. See this open letter in response to the RS statement for more discussion: .  In solidarity with all those in struggle.</p>
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		By: Dr_Tad		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/24959/permanent-revolution/#comment-15702</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Keep up the great work Hossam. I&#039;ve drawn on your post in my article for Australia&#039;s national broadcaster, here:  https://web.archive.org/web/20110909144110/http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/44190.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep up the great work Hossam. I&#8217;ve drawn on your post in my article for Australia&#8217;s national broadcaster, here:  <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20110909144110/http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/44190.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://web.archive.org/web/20110909144110/http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/44190.html</a></p>
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		By: sarda		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/24959/permanent-revolution/#comment-15451</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sarda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Make a big banner that reads,

&quot;Soldiers, What are you going to do when you run out of bullets?&quot;

&quot;This is a civilian affair not a military affair, go back to your barracks!&quot;

&quot;We use the military during war, there is no war!&quot;

&quot;We gave you that gun not to point against us!&quot;

-----sarda-----]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make a big banner that reads,</p>
<p>&#8220;Soldiers, What are you going to do when you run out of bullets?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;This is a civilian affair not a military affair, go back to your barracks!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We use the military during war, there is no war!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We gave you that gun not to point against us!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;sarda&#8212;&#8211;</p>
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		By: sarda		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/24959/permanent-revolution/#comment-15021</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sarda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Yasmin,

I also do not know about socialism but I think it is more important to talk about the essence more than the name(socialism), so the idea I am going to share can be called by any name, if this is not socialism then it is high time for all the socialist/communist or any leftist group to show their product. Well, if it is a good product(system), people will buy it.

Get a clean sheet of paper and then draw on it as many triangles as you can, any kind of triangle, then get one particular triangle, this triangle could be the community or association you are a member at. Now, we can imagine that the three points or corners of the triangle are the three main provisions of society, the school, the industry, and the market. I say provisions because in this community or associations, they have these principles that all members must try to hold on to or stand up to, like they are the general rules and these principles are:

The Five Basic principles:

1) Don&#039;t be a burden!

2) Be independent!

3) Strive for equality!

4) Be practical!

5) Learn and improve!

Hence the three main provisions. They are all in the form of cooperative or I call it the Cooperative Triangle. Since there is cooperative ownership, the provisions are controlled by the associations, every member are secured of job and education, and the control of the market makes the prices of all commodities(products from other associations) are kept in check and equal in exchange. Now imagine that all the triangles are like this one and interacting with one another. Utopia? Then look again at the five basic principles and look at the world of the ordinary people, what principles are they holding up to? The five
basic principles, because these principles are principles that only a human being can hold on to, and the ordinary people are just human being, and the world of the ordinary people is the world of the human being, and it is not Utopia.

-----sarda-----]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Yasmin,</p>
<p>I also do not know about socialism but I think it is more important to talk about the essence more than the name(socialism), so the idea I am going to share can be called by any name, if this is not socialism then it is high time for all the socialist/communist or any leftist group to show their product. Well, if it is a good product(system), people will buy it.</p>
<p>Get a clean sheet of paper and then draw on it as many triangles as you can, any kind of triangle, then get one particular triangle, this triangle could be the community or association you are a member at. Now, we can imagine that the three points or corners of the triangle are the three main provisions of society, the school, the industry, and the market. I say provisions because in this community or associations, they have these principles that all members must try to hold on to or stand up to, like they are the general rules and these principles are:</p>
<p>The Five Basic principles:</p>
<p>1) Don&#8217;t be a burden!</p>
<p>2) Be independent!</p>
<p>3) Strive for equality!</p>
<p>4) Be practical!</p>
<p>5) Learn and improve!</p>
<p>Hence the three main provisions. They are all in the form of cooperative or I call it the Cooperative Triangle. Since there is cooperative ownership, the provisions are controlled by the associations, every member are secured of job and education, and the control of the market makes the prices of all commodities(products from other associations) are kept in check and equal in exchange. Now imagine that all the triangles are like this one and interacting with one another. Utopia? Then look again at the five basic principles and look at the world of the ordinary people, what principles are they holding up to? The five<br />
basic principles, because these principles are principles that only a human being can hold on to, and the ordinary people are just human being, and the world of the ordinary people is the world of the human being, and it is not Utopia.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;sarda&#8212;&#8211;</p>
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		By: sarda		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/24959/permanent-revolution/#comment-14677</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sarda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 03:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah these middle class, I bet they will not hesitate as to even use religion as the overpowering cause of this success, and that people should believe in the power of prayers.

----sarda-----]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah these middle class, I bet they will not hesitate as to even use religion as the overpowering cause of this success, and that people should believe in the power of prayers.</p>
<p>&#8212;-sarda&#8212;&#8211;</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/24959/permanent-revolution/#comment-14654</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Keep on with the struggle, military culture is a disease that needs to be eradicated worldwide.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep on with the struggle, military culture is a disease that needs to be eradicated worldwide.</p>
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		By: Elfalakiste		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/24959/permanent-revolution/#comment-14557</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elfalakiste]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent insight. Please continue to write, I gladly share this]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent insight. Please continue to write, I gladly share this</p>
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		By: xitsawrap		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/24959/permanent-revolution/#comment-14327</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xitsawrap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Che Guevara would agree]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Che Guevara would agree</p>
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