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		By: ruth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ruth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much for your coverage!
I read a brief article in the San Francisco Chronicle about the strikes, and have been searching for more information but they haven&#039;t been covered in any other English-language papers, as far as I can tell (and of course, yours is a far more accurate description than a major paper would have). I&#039;m trying to pull together a last minute article for The Skeleton News, a cooperative, independent monthly paper I write for/edit here in Chicago - if you have any updates on the situation, please let me know. Would you mind if I use one of your photos to accompany the article?

Ruth O-R
Chicago, IL, USA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for your coverage!<br />
I read a brief article in the San Francisco Chronicle about the strikes, and have been searching for more information but they haven&#8217;t been covered in any other English-language papers, as far as I can tell (and of course, yours is a far more accurate description than a major paper would have). I&#8217;m trying to pull together a last minute article for The Skeleton News, a cooperative, independent monthly paper I write for/edit here in Chicago &#8211; if you have any updates on the situation, please let me know. Would you mind if I use one of your photos to accompany the article?</p>
<p>Ruth O-R<br />
Chicago, IL, USA</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, Hossam, the workers &quot;said&quot; there were many demos before. I think a degree of skepticism is warranted.

By the way, how is raising the food allowance greater than a 45-day bonus? The food allowance goes up LE10/month, retroactive seven months, so they all get an extra LE70. A 45 day bonus, assuming a base salary of LE288 (as one worker had) would be about LE430. They got a 21-day bonus, so around LE215, plus the LE70, means they get LE285 -- still a lot less than a 45-day bonus. I suppose in the long run, another 15 months are so, the extra food allowance would eventually amount to that figure, but that seems rather far ahead.

Anyway, it&#039;s very interesting how much union/worker stuff there is now in the press, with a great deal of space given to the Union leaders pledging that this won&#039;t happen again (including a funny comment that workers will work twice as hard to make up for lost production -- I wonder how the workers feel about that).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Hossam, the workers &#8220;said&#8221; there were many demos before. I think a degree of skepticism is warranted.</p>
<p>By the way, how is raising the food allowance greater than a 45-day bonus? The food allowance goes up LE10/month, retroactive seven months, so they all get an extra LE70. A 45 day bonus, assuming a base salary of LE288 (as one worker had) would be about LE430. They got a 21-day bonus, so around LE215, plus the LE70, means they get LE285 &#8212; still a lot less than a 45-day bonus. I suppose in the long run, another 15 months are so, the extra food allowance would eventually amount to that figure, but that seems rather far ahead.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s very interesting how much union/worker stuff there is now in the press, with a great deal of space given to the Union leaders pledging that this won&#8217;t happen again (including a funny comment that workers will work twice as hard to make up for lost production &#8212; I wonder how the workers feel about that).</p>
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		By: Faisal		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Faisal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good coverage Hossam!

Always glad when the workers get, at least, part of what they deserve. Here&#039;s hoping this government wakes up and begins to implement actual, effective changes to improve these people&#039;s lives.

On another note, I heard that the management was actually removed. Is this true?

Also, yesterday, on &quot;el bait baitak&quot; they got the Ministers of Investment and Labor and, other than the usual hodge-podge regarding how they dealt with the situation in the most humane manner possible and how the workers should have exhausted all their &quot;legitimate&quot; channels of communication [Meaning, of course, through the Union officials who came in after all the vote-rigging we heard of] before striking.

Two things to mention, neither of the Ministers condemned striking straight on. In fact, they both said that strikes should be &quot;of the last resort&quot;; a resort never-the-less.

They also said that 70% of the union officials were &quot;new&quot; to their posts and haven&#039;t the experience nor the savvy to deal with the situation because &quot;they are still learning&quot;.

Although, knowing how adept Egyptian government officials are at scape-goating, this seems like an obvious lie... I wanted to ask if you can give any information regarding this; is it true?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good coverage Hossam!</p>
<p>Always glad when the workers get, at least, part of what they deserve. Here&#8217;s hoping this government wakes up and begins to implement actual, effective changes to improve these people&#8217;s lives.</p>
<p>On another note, I heard that the management was actually removed. Is this true?</p>
<p>Also, yesterday, on &#8220;el bait baitak&#8221; they got the Ministers of Investment and Labor and, other than the usual hodge-podge regarding how they dealt with the situation in the most humane manner possible and how the workers should have exhausted all their &#8220;legitimate&#8221; channels of communication [Meaning, of course, through the Union officials who came in after all the vote-rigging we heard of] before striking.</p>
<p>Two things to mention, neither of the Ministers condemned striking straight on. In fact, they both said that strikes should be &#8220;of the last resort&#8221;; a resort never-the-less.</p>
<p>They also said that 70% of the union officials were &#8220;new&#8221; to their posts and haven&#8217;t the experience nor the savvy to deal with the situation because &#8220;they are still learning&#8221;.</p>
<p>Although, knowing how adept Egyptian government officials are at scape-goating, this seems like an obvious lie&#8230; I wanted to ask if you can give any information regarding this; is it true?</p>
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		By: Tim Seah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Seah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 01:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the great report, Hossam.

Encouraging news, but it&#039;s a shame they had to fight so hard for an extra LE10 a month for food. I just bought a large bottle of milk for LE9.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great report, Hossam.</p>
<p>Encouraging news, but it&#8217;s a shame they had to fight so hard for an extra LE10 a month for food. I just bought a large bottle of milk for LE9.</p>
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		By: Joanne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joanne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great and moving report but I dont trust the minister of labor &quot;giving in to most of the demands of the strikers&quot; Its an old trick they are crafty and just wanted the strike to break, I bet not half of what they promissed and agreed on, will actually happen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great and moving report but I dont trust the minister of labor &#8220;giving in to most of the demands of the strikers&#8221; Its an old trick they are crafty and just wanted the strike to break, I bet not half of what they promissed and agreed on, will actually happen</p>
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		By: Hossam el-Hamalawy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Paul for the feedback.... The place was quite when we arrived, because the security forces cleared all the area around the parameter, in anticipation of the governor&#039;s visit, the workers who were on the outside gates told me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paul for the feedback&#8230;. The place was quite when we arrived, because the security forces cleared all the area around the parameter, in anticipation of the governor&#8217;s visit, the workers who were on the outside gates told me.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice, detailed summary of the situation, Hossam. I would stick by my assessment of the number of workers cheering their victory, that was after consultation with the experienced photographers that as you noted had covered a few wars. The figure for the Mahalla strike was the most often agreed upon one in the various press reports. While I would never want to impugn your sources, there is a tendency for leftist activists with a great deal at stake in these events to inflate numbers. After all, didn&#039;t they say there were thousands of workers surrounded by even more security marching through the streets of Kafr al-Duwwar... yet the place was quite peaceful when we arrived.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, detailed summary of the situation, Hossam. I would stick by my assessment of the number of workers cheering their victory, that was after consultation with the experienced photographers that as you noted had covered a few wars. The figure for the Mahalla strike was the most often agreed upon one in the various press reports. While I would never want to impugn your sources, there is a tendency for leftist activists with a great deal at stake in these events to inflate numbers. After all, didn&#8217;t they say there were thousands of workers surrounded by even more security marching through the streets of Kafr al-Duwwar&#8230; yet the place was quite peaceful when we arrived.</p>
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