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		By: Ms .45		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/697/nazi-france-bans-citizen-journalists-from-reporting-violence/#comment-829</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ms .45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 02:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The way this is being reported in my country is that the law is to prevent shitheads assaulting others and filming it for enjoyment, like Bumfights.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/web/france-bans-happy-slapping/2007/03/08/1173166882134.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;France bans &#039;happy slapping&#039;&lt;/a&gt;

In Australia we had a particularly horrific case recently where some teenagers at a not particularly reputable school assaulted a girl and not only filmed it, but made a fairly professional looking DVD out of it. There is a fairly spectacular missing of the point of stuff like Jackass, which is that the Jackass &quot;stars&quot; perform violence on &lt;i&gt;themselves&lt;/i&gt;, voluntarily.

I eagerly await governments bringing in laws against &quot;being a fuckwit&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way this is being reported in my country is that the law is to prevent shitheads assaulting others and filming it for enjoyment, like Bumfights.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/web/france-bans-happy-slapping/2007/03/08/1173166882134.html" rel="nofollow">France bans &#8216;happy slapping&#8217;</a></p>
<p>In Australia we had a particularly horrific case recently where some teenagers at a not particularly reputable school assaulted a girl and not only filmed it, but made a fairly professional looking DVD out of it. There is a fairly spectacular missing of the point of stuff like Jackass, which is that the Jackass &#8220;stars&#8221; perform violence on <i>themselves</i>, voluntarily.</p>
<p>I eagerly await governments bringing in laws against &#8220;being a fuckwit&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Alif		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/697/nazi-france-bans-citizen-journalists-from-reporting-violence/#comment-828</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alif]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good morning freedom :)

&lt;a&gt;Turkish court bans youTube&lt;/a&gt;

Apparently someone used it to say that a figure, who is a little more important than god, was gay.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning freedom :)</p>
<p><a>Turkish court bans youTube</a></p>
<p>Apparently someone used it to say that a figure, who is a little more important than god, was gay.</p>
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		By: Alif		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/697/nazi-france-bans-citizen-journalists-from-reporting-violence/#comment-827</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alif]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 23:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;…I would like to assure you that there are many in the Egyptian blogosphere (including myself) who are ready to post any French police brutality videos you send us.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes. Absolutely. That&#039;s what bloggers (read: brothers) are for :)
We can set uploading facilities on our sites and publish what they upload to them, after setting a simple protocol.

However, Don&#039;t think it&#039;s the technicalities of publishing that are the problem. Most video and photo hosting services can be dealt with by [almost] anonymous accounts, and more anonymity can be achieved using the proper techniques.

This would be feasible if the law criminalises photographing and publishing, but not linking to what&#039;s already on the web.

Rather, it&#039;s the existance of the law itself that matters, and needs to be acted upon by liberties activists &lt;i&gt;in the streets&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>…I would like to assure you that there are many in the Egyptian blogosphere (including myself) who are ready to post any French police brutality videos you send us.</i></p>
<p>Yes. Absolutely. That&#8217;s what bloggers (read: brothers) are for :)<br />
We can set uploading facilities on our sites and publish what they upload to them, after setting a simple protocol.</p>
<p>However, Don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the technicalities of publishing that are the problem. Most video and photo hosting services can be dealt with by [almost] anonymous accounts, and more anonymity can be achieved using the proper techniques.</p>
<p>This would be feasible if the law criminalises photographing and publishing, but not linking to what&#8217;s already on the web.</p>
<p>Rather, it&#8217;s the existance of the law itself that matters, and needs to be acted upon by liberties activists <i>in the streets</i>.</p>
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		By: pepa		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/697/nazi-france-bans-citizen-journalists-from-reporting-violence/#comment-826</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pepa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;a country of racist/corrupt/asshole butchers&quot;  of course it is not FRANCE!

i am really shocked, such a law could be issued in Syria, Egypt or Jordon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a country of racist/corrupt/asshole butchers&#8221;  of course it is not FRANCE!</p>
<p>i am really shocked, such a law could be issued in Syria, Egypt or Jordon.</p>
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		By: Alaa		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/697/nazi-france-bans-citizen-journalists-from-reporting-violence/#comment-825</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alaa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[that would actually be a great way of promoting the Egyptian blogosphere.

let&#039;s publish a general call to French citizens that brave Egyptian bloggers have a long history of covering violence and we are willing to help them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that would actually be a great way of promoting the Egyptian blogosphere.</p>
<p>let&#8217;s publish a general call to French citizens that brave Egyptian bloggers have a long history of covering violence and we are willing to help them.</p>
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		By: Salamander		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/697/nazi-france-bans-citizen-journalists-from-reporting-violence/#comment-824</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Salamander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Putting history aside, down to any government that restricts all those who want to expose the truth. I put my voice with Hamalawy here in supporting any blogger who wants to expose the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putting history aside, down to any government that restricts all those who want to expose the truth. I put my voice with Hamalawy here in supporting any blogger who wants to expose the truth.</p>
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		By: alzaher		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/697/nazi-france-bans-citizen-journalists-from-reporting-violence/#comment-823</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alzaher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[why do you beleive it is worst than the american goverment? chirac&#039;s regime opposed the war on iraq in 2003]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do you beleive it is worst than the american goverment? chirac&#8217;s regime opposed the war on iraq in 2003</p>
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		By: Hossam el-Hamalawy		</title>
		<link>https://arabawy.org/697/nazi-france-bans-citizen-journalists-from-reporting-violence/#comment-822</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hossam el-Hamalawy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 12:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nasser&#039;s regime did not have riot police troops equipped to combat demos, because there was hardly any street dissent from 1954 to February 1968, when the students and Helwan workers demonstrations broke out following the light sentences given to the Air Force senior brass. These demonstrations were followed by more militant ones in Alexandria in Nov &#039;68.
There were discussions among Nasser&#039;s security services&#039; leaders (many of whom their memoirs are published) about the need for riot-control police. Then, the experience of the French May was cited several times by people like General Talaat, Shaarawi Gomaa, and others, as a model. The actual establishment of the CSF was under Sadat, who took over the presidency after Nasser&#039;s sudden death in Sept &#039;70.

Re: &quot;harsh on the french&quot;... I&#039;m critical of the french govt (which I think is much worse than the american govt) not the french people.. That&#039;s why I&#039;m willing to help out any french activist who wants to campaign against this draconian law, and I&#039;m willing to post whatever videos they are willing to leak to the egyptian blogosphere if they fear persecution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nasser&#8217;s regime did not have riot police troops equipped to combat demos, because there was hardly any street dissent from 1954 to February 1968, when the students and Helwan workers demonstrations broke out following the light sentences given to the Air Force senior brass. These demonstrations were followed by more militant ones in Alexandria in Nov &#8217;68.<br />
There were discussions among Nasser&#8217;s security services&#8217; leaders (many of whom their memoirs are published) about the need for riot-control police. Then, the experience of the French May was cited several times by people like General Talaat, Shaarawi Gomaa, and others, as a model. The actual establishment of the CSF was under Sadat, who took over the presidency after Nasser&#8217;s sudden death in Sept &#8217;70.</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;harsh on the french&#8221;&#8230; I&#8217;m critical of the french govt (which I think is much worse than the american govt) not the french people.. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m willing to help out any french activist who wants to campaign against this draconian law, and I&#8217;m willing to post whatever videos they are willing to leak to the egyptian blogosphere if they fear persecution.</p>
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		By: alzaher		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alzaher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 12:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[arent you a little harsh on the french, i mean yes ofcourse they have a long history of torture,but still they gave us the french revolution&#039;s principles as well as the concept of a civil state ,and one more thing there were no central security forces till nasser&#039;s death in 1970,now they are about 450,000]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arent you a little harsh on the french, i mean yes ofcourse they have a long history of torture,but still they gave us the french revolution&#8217;s principles as well as the concept of a civil state ,and one more thing there were no central security forces till nasser&#8217;s death in 1970,now they are about 450,000</p>
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